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Do you separate between person and composer?

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  • #11522
    Gloin the Dark
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      I consider APOCALYPTO one of the greatest films of the century

      Yes, good example. It’s a film I also think is brilliant from a film-maker of whom I don’t have the highest opinion on the personal level.

      #11526
      Malte Müller
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        (Also, Gibson at least knows that he has these demons and actively tried to keep them in check, so that’s something that speaks for him.)

        Good example and if I recall right the “devil” alcohol is also involved in some of the fall outs he had. And I can still watch the LETHAL WEAPON movies which are part of my youth. APOCALYPTO was really an unexpected movie.

        #11527
        GerateWohl
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          Alexander von Humboldt said, “The worst view on the world have people who never had a view at the world.”
          Therefore, to famous persons, especially internationally acclaimed ones, I have higher expectations about their moral compass than to the average person next door. Because I think, the people who get around a lot are privileged, meet a lot of people around the world and have therefore no excuse to keep stupid predjudices like that somewhere else people are dumber than in other places. They have opportunity to learn, to look and see first hand. People who just stay at home forever can easily think, that anywhere else people are idiots.

          #11532
          Nicolai P. Zwar
          Participant

            I’m a cynic by nature, I don’t expect anything from human beings, however, I am willing to create a bit more leeway to those who create great art. I personally clearly prefer a person who is an idiot but creates great art over one who is merely an idiot. 🙂

            #11539
            Malte Müller
            Keymaster

              I’m a cynic by nature, I don’t expect anything from human beings, however, I am willing to create a bit more leeway to those who create great art. I personally clearly prefer a person who is an idiot but creates great art over one who is merely an idiot. 🙂

              I am a bit undecided if that is just rather pragmatic than cynic 😉

              #11541
              Nicolai P. Zwar
              Participant

                Perhaps a bit of both. 🙂

                #11562
                Malte Müller
                Keymaster

                  The Hans Zimmer topic reminded me that there is the other way round: I am not a fan of Balfe’s music in generally but he seems to be a rather nice guy 😉

                  #11642

                  It was really disconcerting reading about Mike Verta’s anti-vaccine attitudes in that other thread. Of film composers, Deborah Lurie has been raising that particular banner for years now, but that’s okay, I’m not really a big fan of her’s to begin with, so not much of a loss. Verta, however, I had great respect for as a pastiche composer. Disappointing, but once again I’ll try listen to FORBIDDEN WARRIOR and other things without thinking too much about that. It’s tricky, but doable!

                  #13259

                  A less controversial question to ask, that is sort of related to this:

                  Are you, at all, interested in the personal lives of your favourite musical heroes?

                  #13263
                  Jon Aanensen
                  Participant

                    Yes. But not too much is known about their personal lives.

                    #13264
                    Malte Müller
                    Keymaster

                      Difficult question. Since the life has influence on how and when what art is created it always had some importance. I don’t need to know every “dirty detail” though…

                      #13273

                      ince the life has influence on how and when what art is created it always had some importance.

                      Exactly. I have zero interest in celebrity gossip, but if there are artists I’m connected to, I very much want to know which personal details inform their work, or what makes up their being as a creative person.

                      Knowing that Williams’ first violin concerto is dedicated to his wife, who had just died, gives that piece extra emotional presence.

                      #13277
                      Malte Müller
                      Keymaster

                        Knowing that Williams’ first violin concerto is dedicated to his wife, who had just died, gives that piece extra emotional presence.

                        Yes, in film composer terms I had to think of that one as well. And Goldsmith’s MUSIC FOR ORCHESTRA.

                        #13289
                        GerateWohl
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                          This rarely applies to orchestral composers. But I found, for me it is quite important how the artists appear on stage. There were musicians who’s music I really adored and after seeing them on stage I thought, what a jerk, or for bands, what a pack of assholes. And then I liked the music a lot less.
                          And I also experienced it the other way around, where I wasn’t so interested in the music but was captivated by experiencing the people live as charming and friendly persons on stage, that I digged more into their work.
                          Probably about 20 to 30 % of live experiences modified my relation with the artists work. For better or worse.

                          #13292
                          Malte Müller
                          Keymaster

                            Probably good and worse that I don’t really go to concerts… But as someone said “Never try to meet your heroes” 😉

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