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  • #14567
    Malte Müller
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      Yes, I meant more the low key style in general. Probably even on purpose as X-FILES already started the year before.

      #14621

      Speaking of composers and singular voices (per that other thread), we all think we know what Goldenthal sounds like. But in 1981, he composed a number of library music instrumentals that sound nothing like him at all. Just straightforward easy listening. They’re available on YouTube, and quite intriguing to behold. I mentioned them in the library music thread, so can be listened to there.

      After the rather exhausting BATMAN FOREVER and SPHERE (great, but exhausting), and the brilliant HEAT, I’m now on to THE BUTCHER BOY in my walkthrough. Didn’t like it when I first got it, but it’s grown on me. Especially the way he plays around with existing melodies. I prefer the more downkey Goldenthal like this.

      #14625
      Malte Müller
      Keymaster

        I mean he had a vast array of musical genrers in his music, from light jazz to clashing dissonances you got everything. Is that the only of his library tracks?

        I first had my problems with scores like BUTCHER BOY as well as I was so used to the “over the top” Goldenthal that it didn’t meet my expectations.

        #14635
        Wesley
        Participant

          The best part of Butcher Boy is the Tune for Da. Goldenthal was a trumpet major and a big Nino Rota/La Strada fan, so I think he is inclined to use the trumpet when he wants to wear his heart on his sleeve.

          #14636

          Is that the only of his library tracks?

          No, it’s a whole album:

          #14645
          Malte Müller
          Keymaster

            Found four tracks on Youtube so far. Faszinating. Probably a combination of fun and “I was young and needed the money” 😉

            #14646
            Wesley
            Participant

              His first “film score” was a porno and that isn’t even the most embarrassing thing he did.
              Speaking of old work I’m surprised he’s never tried recording again are his two pre-Hollywood concert pieces, Shadow Play Scherzo and Pastime Variations.

              #14647

              His first “film score” was a porno and that isn’t even the most embarrassing thing he did.

              Whoa, what? That must have passed me by. It is something he’s said in interviews?

              Speaking of old work I’m surprised he’s never tried recording again are his two pre-Hollywood concert pieces, Shadow Play Scherzo and Pastime Variations.

              Yes, I’m curious about those too. Especially “Shadow Play Scherzo”, which is probably in the top 3 unreleased Goldenthal wishes for me. I’m not quite up to date on his unreleased concert and theatre works, but here’s list I did in February 2021. I believe some more pieces have surfaced since then:

              CONCERT MUSIC:

              GRENDEL
              BRASS QUINTET NO. 1
              PASTIME VARIATIONS
              SHADOW PLAY SCHERZO
              ADAGIETTO DOLOROSO
              LEMURIAN DANCE
              LOS HERALDOS NEGROS
              PAVANE FOR SOLO PIANO
              LYRIC SUITE: THE FLOODS OF AVON

              THEATRE:

              A GOZZI SURPRISE
              THE KING STAG
              LIBERTY’S TAKEN
              THE TRANSPOSED HEADS
              THE SERPENT WOMAN
              THE TEMPEST
              THE TAMING OF THE SHREW
              A MIDSUMMER NIGHT’S DREAM (1984 version)
              TITUS ANDRONICUS (the stage version, obviously)

              #14649
              Wesley
              Participant

                He mentioned it in a documentary called “Lights, Action, Music”.

                Recently Film Score Monthly had an interview with Barry Levinson and I was surprised he didn’t discuss Goldenthal and “Sphere”. Well, maybe not too surprised since the movie stank. But I think it was one of his coolest scores, it’s one of the best blends of orchestra and electronics I’ve heard.

                #14651
                Malte Müller
                Keymaster

                  He mentioned it in a documentary called “Lights, Action, Music”.

                  Ah, maybe he re-used motifs of that in totally different works later on 😉

                  SPHERE is great and while the album is a good listen I think it missing music from the 2nd half of the film and the finale. So this would be a candidate of an “expansion”.

                  #14652

                  I’m one of the few who actually like SPHERE – the film – as well. The soundtrack satisfies all my needs. It’s very intense, so half an hour is fine.

                  #14654
                  Jon Aanensen
                  Participant

                    Recently Film Score Monthly had an interview with Barry Levinson

                    Would have been interesting to read. But i will never have an online subscribtion…

                    #14666
                    Malte Müller
                    Keymaster

                      I’m one of the few who actually like SPHERE – the film – as well. The soundtrack satisfies all my needs. It’s very intense, so half an hour is fine.

                      I do like the film as well. I knew you would say that about the album. But given it is only from the first half of the film/score we should at least get a fuller picture. Not necessarily compete on 2+ CDs but maybe a bit more than just 35 min as on other of his scores. Maybe it is not needed but since I don’t know it…

                      #14793

                      At THE GREEN BIRD now. Is this the only CD that has an actual, real feather included underneath the tray? Always found that an amusing gimmick.

                      #14797
                      Malte Müller
                      Keymaster

                        Maybe only you have that? I only have it digitally 😉

                        #14799

                        It’s more amusing than the irritating THE LOST WORLD digiback 3D popup thing, at least, if we’re talking CD gimmicks. 🙂

                        #14805
                        Malte Müller
                        Keymaster

                          Actually I find the real feather more irritating than that popup digipack which I do have 😉

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