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FSM # 17: The Musical Poetry of Urban Soundscapes

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  • #7914

    FSM # 17: January 11, 2012

    Herrmann’s TAXI DRIVER, Elliot Goldenthal’s HEAT, maybe Vangelis’ BLADE RUNNER…..what are some other scores that conjure up the beauty and majesty and maybe moral corruption of cityscapes?

    I’m not necessarily thinking about jazz stuff for urban 70’s cop thrillers and such; more the steamy, throbbing, busy atmosphere. Imagine a sunset over skyscrapers and how you would score that.

    #7915

    (I should add that I wrote an article on this very topic in 2012 – probably why I did that thread in the first place – which was later republished on this site in 2021. Here’s a Google-translated version of that article, for anyone interested).

    #7946
    GerateWohl
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    Probably Hans Zimmer’s “Black Rain” falls into that category. And Joe Hisaishi’s “Brother” as well as Terrence Blanchard’s “25th Hour”.

    #7948

    Great suggestions!

    #7964
    Nicolai P. Zwar
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    Elliot Goldenthal HEAT
    James Newton Howard COLLATERAL
    Ennio Morricone UN UOMO DA RISPETTARE
    Jerry Goldsmith SHAMUS
    Hans Zimmer BLACK RAIN

    #7966

    One that is often overlooked (but which I mentioned in the article) is THE SAINT OF FORT WASHINGTON. Connotes urban loneliness so well. The opening of GRAND CANYON is another. And of course COLLATERAL too, that Nick mentioned. In fact, JNH is somewhat of an expert in this sound.

    Also mentioned in the article is another Goldenthal score – GOLDEN GATE. Blissful, moody, ethereal, sexy.

    #7968
    GerateWohl
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    Jerry Goldsmith SHAMUS

    Talking of Goldsmith, we shouldn’t forget CITY HALL.
    And CHINATOWN.

    #7983
    Nicolai P. Zwar
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    CHINATOWN is one of my all time favorite movies and scores, so I really did not forget about it. However, for me (others may differ) it didn’t align with Thor’s request for “Urban Soundscapes” “steamy, throbbing” or “busy atmosphere”, “skyscrapers”… instead, CHINATOWN the music conjures up images of the Western desert, orange groves, dust, a sparse, dry sound for the (then) more spread out desert community Los Angeles that borders at the ocean, far removed from the urban density of New York or Chicago or Boston (or later L.A.). So while I love CHINATOWN (both score and film), and I certainly did not forget about it, it just did not fit with what Thor was asking for.

    #7989
    GerateWohl
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    CHINATOWN is one of my all time favorite movies and scores, so I really did not forget about it. However, for me (others may differ) it didn’t align with Thor’s request for “Urban Soundscapes” “steamy, throbbing” or “busy atmosphere”, “skyscrapers”… instead, CHINATOWN the music conjures up images of the Western desert, orange groves, dust, a sparse, dry sound for the (then) more spread out desert community Los Angeles that borders at the ocean, far removed from the urban density of New York or Chicago or Boston (or later L.A.). So while I love CHINATOWN (both score and film), and I certainly did not forget about it, it just did not fit with what Thor was asking for.

    I think you are right. I was also hesitant to mention it because of what you wrote, Nick. But somehow it falls for me into the category “urban sound”, which is not exactly what Thor was asking for.

    #8857

    A solo trumpet or sax usually gets the trick done.

    Bill Conti’s BLOOD IN BLOOD OUT has some good stuff. Sadly not released commercially, and the track I own on a bootleg that would fit in here, “East Los Angeles”, I couldn’t find on YouTube.

    Another example is Christian Verbeek’s recent score for THREE DAYS OF FISH:

    Sometimes helicopters fly over the cityscapes, allowing for great, sweepingly poetic music. One example is in Cliff Martinez’ TRAFFIC:

    But an even better example — perhaps the best helicopter-flying-over-city cue ever – is Tim Truman’s gorgeous track from MIAMI VICE:

    OK, enough for now. I don’t want these threads to get TOO YouTube-heavy.

    #8869
    Malte Müller
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    Bill Conti’s BLOOD IN BLOOD OUT has some good stuff.

    Good Conti, I know that one as well.

    Christian Verbeek’s recent score for THREE DAYS OF FISH:

    Nice track indeed, sounds like an end title or epilogue track actually.

    OK, enough for now. I don’t want these threads to get TOO YouTube-heavy.

    We actually have a plugin active that should help caching the preview images locally so the page is not loading too slow because all videso are instantly loaded and for privacy reasons.

    #8870

    We actually have a plugin active that should help caching the preview images locally so the page is not loading too slow because all videso are instantly loaded and for privacy reasons.

    That’s good to know. But I will always prefer words over videos anyway. But once in a while for illustration, it’s okay.

    #8894
    Jon Aanensen
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    I seeem to remember that the Helicopter cue by Truman is used over the water and some rural landscapes…..

    #8901
    Malte Müller
    Keymaster

    That’s good to know. But I will always prefer words over videos anyway. But once in a while for illustration, it’s okay.

    Words are great but since we’re talking about music it’s great to directly sample. Of course on desktop the video appear rather huge due to the width adjusting but that is not really avoidable. I could theoretichally hook into the styles to fake resize them to look less wide.

    #8902
    Malte Müller
    Keymaster

    I could theoretichally hook into the styles to fake resize them to look less wide.

    Actually I think I probably could via a setting by the the plugin I mentioned, too.

    #8903
    Malte Müller
    Keymaster

    Btw, maybe obvious but just to note: You can also hinder the site to embed a video directly if you link it via text instead using the toolbar LINK button.

    #8906

    I seeem to remember that the Helicopter cue by Truman is used over the water and some rural landscapes…..

    Ah, OK. But I still get massive urban vibes from the track itself. Miami skylines, if such things exist.

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