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FSM # 42: The soundtrack genie gives you ONE chance!

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  • #14333

    FSM # 42: November 11, 2003

    Let’s do this silly scenario:

    You rub a magic lamp and a genie appears. He tells you that you are allowed to pick one previously unreleased score from the entire history of cinema to be released in a deluxe edition for the very first time (whichever way you define deluxe edition…for me, it does not necessarily mean complete and chronological).

    However, he puts forth certain demands:

    You are allowed to pick ONE and ONLY ONE score. Not two. Not three. But ONE. Also, the score can never have been released in any format whatsoever. Not CD. Not LP. Not even bootleg (as far as you’re aware). No theme on a compilation somewhere. NOT A SINGLE NOTE can ever have been released anywhere (outside the actual movie). And yes, that disqualifies expanded releases.

    If you do not abide by these demands, you are swept off the face of the earth. Gone forever.

    Now, which score would you choose?

    #14334

    I was apparently very strict with my demands there in 2003. Because while Williams’ STORIA DI UNA DONNA would be my no. 1 pick, I’m not sure it would qualify, since the theme song was released on an LP single, and it DOES have a bootleg (containing poor-sounding audio rips).

    #14342
    Malte Müller
    Keymaster

      I would take out bootlegs, especially those bad ones. But STORIA DI UNA DONNA is really disqualfied due to the song. Unless that is a single version not appearing in the movie itself maybe 😉 So I guess SECRET WAYS would qualify? Weirdly I have to think hard what else could qualify although there should be so so many…

      #14352
      Jon Aanensen
      Participant

        Off the top of my head:

        STREETWISE by Jonathan Elias, Alex Lasarenko and Fritz Doddy.

        #14355
        Malte Müller
        Keymaster

          I know Elias but never heard of STREETWISE. Is that a crime movie?

          #14358
          Jon Aanensen
          Participant

            Kind of

            #14360
            GerateWohl
            Participant

              Do rejected scores qualify, too?
              Then I might ask for Howard Shore’s KING KONG or Alexandre Desplat’s ROGUE ONE.

              #14361

              Do rejected scores qualify, too?
              Then I might ask for Howard Shore’s KING KONG or Alexandre Desplat’s ROGUE ONE.

              You picked TWO! According to the rules, you are now deleted into oblivion.

              #14363
              GerateWohl
              Participant

                I am undecided which one. Ok. If I am just allowed to pick one, I take KK. Even though traces of it were reused by Shore on his album “A Palace Upon the Ruins”.

                So, probably I am deleted anyway.

                #14367

                You managed just in time!

                I wasn’t aware he reused KING KONG for A PALACE UPON THE RUINS. I have the latter work, and quite like it.

                #14372
                Malte Müller
                Keymaster

                  I wasn’t aware he reused KING KONG for A PALCE UPON THE RUINS. I have the latter work, and quite like it.

                  Didn’t know that as well and always wondered if anything ended up somewhere. Haven’t heard that score.

                  #14375
                  GerateWohl
                  Participant

                    Didn’t know that as well and always wondered if anything ended up somewhere. Haven’t heard that score.

                    It’s not a score. More a collection of concert works. Main part is a song cycle.

                    #14377
                    Malte Müller
                    Keymaster

                      It’s not a score. More a collection of concert works. Main part is a song cycle.

                      Ah, okay. But that “has” a score 😉

                      #14389
                      KMCG
                      Participant

                        My number one WANT is also Story Of A Woman by John Williams, but apart from the 45′ single, BSX included the theme on one of those piano renditions CDs for John Williams. So that rules that one out.
                        So, it would have to be Aspen Extreme by Michael Convertino. Incredible score.
                        Or Volunteers by James Horner 😉

                        #14394
                        Nicolai P. Zwar
                        Participant

                          Er… dear genie… “If you do not abide by these demands, you are swept off the face of the earth. Gone forever.”

                          Not sure I’ll take the risk, as I’ve never done the research to know about what tracks or parts have appeared on any compilation. Certainly not bootlegs, as there are innumerable.

                          But my one pick would be and has been for a while:
                          Maurice Jarre: 5 Card Stud.

                          I’m not aware of any release ever anywhere of this score or tracks… even though it features a Maurice Jarre composed Dean Martin song. But if that’s ever been released anywhere, I’m certainly not aware of it.

                          #14396
                          GerateWohl
                          Participant

                            Of course I would embrace STORY OF A WOMAN, too. But if you asked me if I prefered the original recording being published or some kind of nostalgic suite of it written by Williams for the concert hall, maybe even with Anna-Sophie or Yo-Yo on their solo instrument I probably prefered the latter option. I simply believe, I would rather listen to a concert suite more often. The original score I would probably listen to once to get notice. And from then on it might just collect dust on my shelf.
                            Of course I’d be happy to have it. But I doubt it became an evergreen.

                            #14400

                            Yes, the original rules were way too strict. Both you and Kev would have been deleted into oblivion by the genie, by choosing two titles. And it makes no sense to include bootlegs. But I remember I chose those strict rules because I wanted to avoid people submitting long “holy grail” lists whenever topics like these popped up. Well, still do, in fact.

                            A symphonic suite of STORY OF A WOMAN would be nice, but the score is nice enough in itself, and performed admirably, to sustain its own album. Williams doesn’t agree, but – to be a little brutal about it – maybe some doors open up once he’s dead. But yes, it had that LP single.

                            If I can choose something else, it would be Williams’ “Symphony No. 1”.

                            #14408
                            Malte Müller
                            Keymaster

                              If I can choose something else, it would be Williams’ “Symphony No. 1”.

                              Was that ever recorded or even performed actually?

                              #14410

                              It was performed. First in the UK (Liverpool, was it?) in the 60s or 70s, and then in Houston, Texas in the 80s (Previn conducting). But never recorded. At one point in time, one could hire the score sheets, for those who can read notes, but I don’t think it’s available there anymore.

                              #14412

                              By the way, similarly to STORY OF A WOMAN, another big wish for me would be a box of Williams’ work on ALCOA PREMIERE THEATRE. But a re-recorded version of the theme was released, so according to those rules by a strict 2003 Thor, it wouldn’t qualify.

                              So I guess that leaves the symphony.

                              #14414
                              Malte Müller
                              Keymaster

                                Did he withdraw the symphony actually? Weird that otherwise no one ever recorded it.

                                There was a recording of the ALOCA theme?

                                #14418

                                Yes, he took Herrmann’s criticism to heart, and never revised it or recorded it. Took it personally, I guess.

                                ALCOA was recorded on this album (merely called “Premier”).

                                #14433
                                Malte Müller
                                Keymaster

                                  Ah, I even have that digitally but totally forgot about that!

                                  #14441
                                  Nicolai P. Zwar
                                  Participant

                                    What did Herrmann have to say about Williams’ Symphony?

                                    #14447

                                    Nobody knows, exactly. The specifics aren’t even in Greiving’s book, as far as I remember. But it was Herrmann who urged him to write it, and after the premiere, he had some critical remarks that Williams took hard.

                                    #14450
                                    Malte Müller
                                    Keymaster

                                      Too bad… Maybe/possibly parts already ended up in other works.

                                      #14451

                                      There’s supposedly a jazzy middle movement that is inspired by flautist Eric Dolphy.

                                      #14457
                                      Nicolai P. Zwar
                                      Participant

                                        Do I now get my wish?

                                        #14458

                                        Yes, you followed the rules. One 5 YEAR STUD coming up.

                                        #14459
                                        KMCG
                                        Participant

                                          Wait!! WAIT!!
                                          Cancel that wish.
                                          Two tracks from 5 Card Stud are available on a French 4CD collection of Maurice Jarre film scores (the Dean Martin song and a track called The Investigation).
                                          Phew!! 😉

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