Needless details about your collection..
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Thanks for doing the math for me, Malte! Seems like everyone will inevitably land somewhere in the 3-minute mark, whatever the size of one’s collection?
Yeah, interestingly enough. “3:38” seems to me an average length for a pop song, since many classical and film score recordings have longer tracks, I’d have thought the average length might be a bit longer, but I guess there are enough short and really short tracks in my collection to counter-balance the longer ones.
I think the mixture of it all causes this, at least for me (not to speak of loads of TV themes around 1 min)
You can also just calculate directly number of days x 86400 (number of seconds in a day) to get the number. 🙂
Yeah, glad I managed it at all since I was a “math genius” in school 😉
I just thought I check the longest and the shortest tracks in my collection, and there are indeed quite a few very short tracks.
Apart from some super-brief, under one second sound effects, the first “official” music tracks are still very short… the shortest is actually from Mozart’s DIE ZAUBERFLÖTE (conducted by Karl Böhm) which is only 2 seconds long! (There are also some very short cues by Roy Budd, Fred Steiner, Bernard Herrmann etc… that are just 3-6 seconds long). The longest tracks I have tend to be some albums that came with “continuous tracks (like Jean Michel Jarre, Electronica 2:The Heard of Noise (1:14:15), or long one track compositions, like Pierre Boulez’ Dérives 2 (50:40).
I suspect most of us with larger collections will have many very short and some very long tracks, and so far, it seems most collections will have an average track length between 3-4 minutes.
The longest tracks I have tend to be some albums that came with “continuous tracks (like Jean Michel Jarre, Electronica 2:The Heard of Noise (1:14:15)
Huh. My CD of this has all the tracks properly separated. I haven’t really noticed any crossfades between tracks either. What version do you have?
I have no idea what my shortest or longest track is. I’m not sure iTunes allows me to sort that way.
Actually, I found a way to add ‘duration’ to the sorting parameters in iTunes.
Shortest track appears to be a 5-second John Williams bumper from the first AMAZING STORIES 2CD set.
Longest track is a ‘cheat’, because it’s a rip of a radio broadcast of a concert (the track is 1:33:58). But the longest PROPER track is – indeed – a Jean Michel Jarre track. Two, in fact: First “Snapshot 1, Part 3” from EON (an album that is only part of a rare, extremely expensive box), at 51:54, then “En Attendant Cousteau” from WAITING FOR COUSTEAU at 46:56, and – for film music – the single 41:45 track “Chronos” from Michael Stearns’ score of the same name.
Yes, you can select the columns to show via the menu in iTunes/Music since forever. I have some at 0 which seem to be mistakes/orphans as it is really hard to cleanup the library as the programm does not offer anything for that. Except clearing and re-importing of course which means loosing a few things.
Longest are over 2 hours and for example audio plays without any tracks.Huh. My CD of this has all the tracks properly separated. I haven’t really noticed any crossfades between tracks either. What version do you have?
I have the digital download version (bought from Qobuz), which features two “varieties” of the album, individual tracks and a “continuous mix”. I was puzzled by this as well. I suppose because of streaming, the individual tracks are mastered individually (and vary in loudness), which is okay for shuffling or random play, whereas the “continuous mix” is more unified, the way one would listen to an album.
I suppose this division is not “necessary” on a CD (I find it superfluous digitally as well, I think they should just release the music as is on CD and be done with it, but there you have it). My guess is that the CD is like the “continuous mix” with proper track separation, which is basically all you need anyway.
My version also has separated tracks without crossfades.
I think they should just release the music as is on CD and be done with it
For download I agree especially lossless. Mastering is even different for LP, CD or streaming and I think even for lossy formats there are recommendations what to master for what in loudness and such. I think I read mp3 for example clips earlier than a lossless format or so.
For LPs, I can understand a different mastering, the dynamic range isn’t as great, and bass might have to be taken back.
Streaming/download and CD could have the same (and usually have). But it seems to be a Jean Michel Jarre thing, I have a couple of albums by him that come in these two varieties.Some common first names in my collection (5 or more):
John/Johnny – 18
Dave/David – 11
Michael – 10
Georg/George/Georges – 10
Dan/Daniel/Danny – 9
Rob/Robert – 8
Paul – 8
Mark – 8
Christoph/Christophe/Christopher – 7
Philip/Philipp/Philippe – 7
Patrick – 6
Richard/Rick – 6
Alan – 5
Jean-something – 5If those are not needless details about my collection, I don’t know what are.
My CD collection is on shelves, in alphabetical composer order where that’s possible. The first CD is by Michael Abels. Until recently it was by Alejandro Amenábar, but that still means that I have NO John Addison or Richard Addinsell for example. The last CD is by Denny Zeitlin… which means I have NO Zimmer at all. That’s kind of surprising even to me. I don’t hate him, and some of his scores are probably better than ones I DO have by other composers, but his name alone conjures up very little magic for me – and a lot of negative feelings.
Great stuff, thanks for participating… that’s the spirit I had hoped this would be… just “needless” oddball facts about our collection. And always happy to see Denny Zeitlin gets mentioned… I’ve got some of his jazz albums too, I like them a lot.
The classic, old-school, all-purple Varese spines….how many do you have?
I have 46, spread out across the collection.
(They might be ugly, but I like ’em. They stand out!).
Purple? Do you mean the maroon colored ones? I like them a lot. Unfortunately, I gave away and sold a lot of them. But I still got a lot of them. Don’t know how many though.
The classic, old-school, all-purple Varese spines….how many do you have?
I have 46, spread out across the collection.
I’ll double that – 92! 😀
Purple is Naxos, maroon Varese.
I just counted 38 maroon Varese albums left in my collection.
But over time I distinguished about five different shades of maroon. They aren’t all the same.
Unfortunately, I sold a bunch of those I had doubled up years ago, like Air Force One, for example.
Here’s a block of my maroon Varèse Sarabande Goldsmith CDs.
I don’t know how many I have in total, as they are spread out among the composers in my shelf.
Yeah, the hue is a bit uneven. Also, occasional exposure to sun has made the difference even greater to me.
I think I have a misprint on one of them – for YOUNG INDIANA JONES, VOL. 2, the text is in BLACK, not white. Which makes it hard to read on the maroon background.
I of course have several of that but I have no counted them. It was always great to easily spot them when scanning 2nd shops back then.
But over time I distinguished about five different shades of maroon. They aren’t all the same.
They bleach over time a little in sunlight 😉
I think I have a misprint on one of them – for YOUNG INDIANA JONES, VOL. 2, the text is in BLACK, not white
Seems to be a regular misprint because I have that one, too. Maybe Colosseum’s fault back then at least I have their version.
The Varèse Sarabande CD of THE BLUE MAX may have been the first time a classic vintage soundtrack was expanded, remastered and re-released. It was really a “wow” moment back then, when the CD medium was still new. It is also among the first Jerry Goldsmith CD I ever bought.
1995, was it? I had that CD too, but sold it (I was never a big fan of the score).
But I think the “dark ages” of expansions started before that. The Arista STAR WARS box was 1993, for example.
No, the Varèse Sarabande THE BLUE MAX CD came out ten years earlier, in 1985 I think! I know I bought in the 1980s. Though it wasn’t the first Jerry Goldsmith CD I bought, I picked up ISLANDS ON THE STREAM and LEGEND before THE BLUE MAX. (Corrected it).
The Varèse Sarabande CD of THE BLUE MAX
It was on Varese, too? I do have the Sony Legacy and the Tadlow re-recording – it is not my favorite GOldsmith but I somewhat like it (well, I find something in any Goldsmith to be honest ;-)) – but otherwise thought it was on Intrada before the Lalaland one. Must be one of the most re-release scores.
No, the Varèse Sarabande THE BLUE MAX CD came out ten years earlier, in 1985 I think!
Ah yes, you’re right, the 1995 one was Sony.
In that case, you might very well be right. I’m not aware of any other CD expansions in that period. I was thinking RED DAWN, also 1985, which was the first CD release by Intrada, but I think it was a straight reissue of the LP. And I can’t immediately think of any expansions in the LP age (unless you count “Volume 2” releases….2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY had that, for example, and I actually have that follow-up LP, not the original).
The first release of THE BLUE MAX on CD was on Varèse Sarabande Records. As I said, it’s the first time as far as I know that a classic soundtrack was expanded and remastered for CD release.
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