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  • #10996
    Malte Müller
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      I think I’m going to keep it, if only because of the superior sound on the OST, but some day, I’ll reacquire the old Varese, I think.

      I do understand that preference but this sound weird to replace the better sounding one with the old single one…

      #10998

      No, no…not replacing. Just adding, like it should always have been. I should never have sold it.

      #11000
      Nicolai P. Zwar
      Participant

        My preference does not encompass pleasing other people’s preferences. A preference is by nature anti-altruistic.

        Fair enough, though I don’t think that is so. Actions can be altruistic or anti-altruistic, but preferences cannot be either.

        #11002

        OK, ‘egoistic’, then. A preference is by nature egoistic, isn’t it?

        #11004
        Malte Müller
        Keymaster

          No, no…not replacing. Just adding, like it should always have been. I should never have sold it.

          But why when it is in better sound included on the 2nd disc?

          #11005

          See earlier discussion. Just to have something that is just that and no more. There’s a weird sense of fulfillment in that, hard to explain.

          #11007
          Nicolai P. Zwar
          Participant

            That’s now more a philosophical discussion… are preferences inherently self‑centered? Do they carry moral weight?
            I don’t really think so, so again, I don’t think “egoistic” is the right word. Sure, a preference is purely “personal“, you can “prefer” anything you want, it’s a personal thing… it may be subjective, it may be unreasonable, it may be all kinds of things… I think some preferences can obviously lead to egoistic or anti-altruistic behavior/actions, but a “preference” in itself seems rather value neutral to me. I can prefer coffee over tea, that’s a personal preference. If I declare all tea illegal and demand that everyone drinks coffee, now that would be something else. But whatever, no need to belabor the point, as I said, I think anyone can prefer anything they want anyway (which is why I’d say La-La Land releases are about as close as possible in the film score world to get anyone whatever they want as seems humanly possible in the real world).

            Speaking of THE FURY, I ended up with several copies of that score, including two of the 2CD Varèse Sarabande CDs you have. I also had two La-La Land 2CD sets (basically the same as the Varèse Sarabande set), and two “regular” soundtrack editions. I traded some of these away over the years.

            THE FURY is one of those cases where I personally love and need “both” versions, as they are substantially different. John Williams made a great original soundtrack album for THE FURY, the tracks are well selected, excellently performed, and both the performance and the music itself are significantly different from the film tracks. The soundtrack recoding has the wonderful “Epilog”, whereas the film recording contains action music from beginning of the movie and the Fog Scene, music I always wanted to have before I even had my first CD. “Gillian’s Power” is more aggressive on the film tracks and has the theremin, which Williams didn’t use in the re-recording. So THE FURY is one case where I like the original film tracks recording and the soundtrack album recording equally.

            #11008
            Nicolai P. Zwar
            Participant

              hard to explain.

              Which is probably why it’s hard to understand. 🙂

              #11009

              (which is why I’d say La-La Land releases are about as close as possible in the film score world to get anyone whatever they want as seems humanly possible in the real world).

              I think ‘real world’ is the key word here. My suggested compromise solution of having two separate soundtrack releases does not belong in the real world. It’s simply not feasible. It’s easier for labels to include everything in the same package.

              So we’re operating more out of a hypothetical “I wish” scenario, based purely on personal preference. I think it’s an egoistic enterprise, in some way – because you want things exactly as YOU want them, it’s not interesting what everyone else wants. That doesn’t have to carry negative value connotations, it’s just the way we orient ourselves in our daily lives.

              Meanwhile, in the real world, labels choose their profiles, and none of us have any saying in the matter. LLL has chosen C&C. Caldera and MM have chosen a more curated angle. Other labels have both. So we gravitate towards what we prefer of those choices. I do recognize that LLL’s OST+C&C variant is a real-world compromise solution, it’s just not one that fits my wishful preference.

              #11012
              Nicolai P. Zwar
              Participant

                think ‘real world’ is the key word here. My suggested compromise solution of having two separate soundtrack releases does not belong in the real world. It’s simply not feasible. It’s easier for labels to include everything in the same package.

                Though digital releases make it possible… you could just buy/download the tracks or parts of a release that you want.

                I think the thing is: desires and preferences are what they are, they are neither “altruistic” nor “anti-altruistic”, it’s when you want your desires fulfilled at the expense of other people’s desires, especially when it’s most other people’s desires, then it might be time for a moment of self-reflection/evaluation. (Not saying that you do that.)

                #11037
                Ruslan32
                Participant

                  I don’t have a favorite label right now. But there are some small labels that (quite unexpectedly) release exactly what I’ve been wanting. It’s not always in a format that’s convenient for me, but that’s what matters most to me. After all, I collect music first and foremost, not plastic and paper. But I’m always ready to support a label and buy (for example) a CD to support them.
                  For instance, labels like BSX Records, Dragons Domain Records, and Terror Vision have released things over the past few years that I thought were highly unlikely.
                  For example, Dragons Domain released the amazing Volume 2 of David Michael Frank’s music, and especially Volume 3, which included the hidden gems “Call Me” and “Poison Ivy.”
                  I hope Volume 4 will follow in the future, as there are still some very good action-style electronic scores by Frank.
                  And Terror Vision released The Wraith. I had already given up hope that it would ever be officially released…
                  They also released one premiere score each by such excellent composers as Charles Bernstein and J. Peter Robinson. They’ve composed quite a lot of interesting music for television. I hope that labels like these will be able to release more material in this genre as much as they can. Although it’s obvious that even many fans of electronic soundtracks aren’t particularly interested in this. But they’re banking on vinyl, cassettes, and digital formats, and those formats are more or less paying for themselves. I’m happy with any format as long as it’s something that interests me! These days, releasing apremiere scores is a real rarity…
                  Larger labels like Varèse haven’t released anything particularly interesting to me in recent years. La-La Land (like Intrada) has mostly focused on reissues. It’s also clear that the number of La-La Land releases has dropped significantly… They’ve concentrated on big-name composers.
                  But I was pleasantly surprised that La-La Land released the premiere score for BB-2, and Intrada released Flatliners.
                  I take a realistic view of the situation and understand that, in all likelihood, much of what I want will never be released.
                  For example, I’d love to finally get the two missing Faltermeyer scores in my collection: Fatal Beauty and Fletch. I haven’t given up hope that La-La Land will release at least one of them someday. After all, they’ve released more of his scores than anyone else.
                  Sorry for the long comment. I just needed to get that off my chest! 🙂

                  #11042
                  Malte Müller
                  Keymaster

                    Sorry for the long comment.

                    No need to be sorry 😉 Indeed BSX/DD (for me that is all one actually) do relase interesting stuff. They probably can being “under the radar” a bit… And thtey also offer downloads only that have a bit lesser costs.
                    Lalaland and the others often alsos have the advantage or disadvantage that they have no digital rights. Varese seems to have and has generally the most expensive prices for downloads. Lossless is at CD level mostly. You have to look where you buy downloads (their bandcamp is a bit cheaper btw.)

                    Though digital releases make it possible… you could just buy/download the tracks or parts of a release that you want.

                    Indeed, although with albums that have more than a few tracks it is often more expensive to buy one or two tracks than just buying the whole album.

                    desires and preferences are what they are, they are neither “altruistic” nor “anti-altruistic”,

                    Let’s just call it “Thor’s obsession” and it is outside all adjective categories 😉

                    #11047
                    Jon Aanensen
                    Participant

                      At least we have FLETCH on cd now with around 15 minutes of score.

                      FATAL BEAUTY is sadly totally unreleased.

                      #11048
                      Nicolai P. Zwar
                      Participant

                        Though digital releases make it possible… you could just buy/download the tracks or parts of a release that you want.

                        Indeed, although with albums that have more than a few tracks it is often more expensive to buy one or two tracks than just buying the whole album.

                        True, but this particular discussion is explicitly not about price; it is not a price issue, it’s about getting the album you personally want. So you could still buy the whole album and exclusively download the tracks or sections of tracks that you personally want. Nothing more, nothing less.

                        #11056
                        Malte Müller
                        Keymaster

                          True, for the plain issue if money does not matter it is.

                          #11887
                          Malte Müller
                          Keymaster

                            Two announcements by Caldera coming June 15th: “One new album, and a change in business”.

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