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Who should take over the STAR WARS series after Williams?

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  • #7030
    GerateWohl
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      I wasn’t super thrilled and my expectations for future Star Wars scores are at an historical low point. But I found Michael Abels’ and Cameron Moody’s efforts for The Acolyte very ok. Much better than anything from Holt, Britell or Göransson or any other of his Mandalorian stand-ins.

      I assume technically Newman could go in a direction like Shadow of the Empire. But I don’t think he will.
      Until Solo obviously the understanding of every composer like McNeely, Powel or Giacchino was, “this is Star Wars, so I will provide a Star Wars score.
      But Göransson started this “They hired me, so I will provide a Göransson score.” Let’s see how Newman will handle this. With him it could go both ways. Let’s see if we are going to get a Star Wars score or a Thomas Newman score.

      #7032
      Malte Müller
      Keymaster

        “They hired me, so I will provide a Göransson score.”

        They of course will get instructions by the producers what to do and what not. They surely will not be allow to “just do what they” like on a multi million dollar francise by Disney.

        #7033
        GerateWohl
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          They of course will get instructions by the producers what to do and what not. They surely will not be allow to “just do what they” like on a multi million dollar francise by Disney.

          Yeah, I remember a conversation between Göransson and Favreau from a Mandalorian making-of where Göransson said to Favreau, if he expected something like Williams’ music they had got a problem, and Favreau responded, no no, he should just provide what he thinks is right. Yes, they wanted an original dedicated musical language for the show.
          But as Göransson said himself. It wasn’t the case, that he said, you can get whatever you want, I can do anything. He said, “If you want the original SW sound, then I am not your guy.”

          #7035
          Malte Müller
          Keymaster

            It takes some self confidence and commerical standing to do that. I have not seen much of MANDALORIAN but I think that slight western sound does work even if often too atmospheric if you can say that. Despite that the Williams sound is iconic and more fun standalone.

            #7037
            GerateWohl
            Participant

              I saw a fan edit of some Mandalorian scenes tracked with Williams’ music. And it was a difference like day and night. With Göransson’s score I just saw actors in weird costumes walking through an artificial scenery. But Williams’ music provided the fairy dust to make me believe that I watch events in another world.

              But I know, it works for others and there are many fans of Göransson’s Mandalorian score. So, just my problem.

              #7045
              Malte Müller
              Keymaster

                I can imagine that Williams will also work because I/we are used having grown up with it as “Star Wars sound”.

                #9300

                I didn’t really know where to put this (I’m hesitant to start another STAR WARS thread, as I don’t want this to turn into JWFAN), BUT I just rewatched THE LAST JEDI yesterday, and noticed a brief cameo of Williams’ THE LONG GOODBYE theme during the Canto Bight sequence. Wow, cute. This is probably common knowledge to everyone, but wasn’t to me. Only took me close to a decade and some 3-4 rewatches.

                #9320
                Malte Müller
                Keymaster

                  BUT I just rewatched THE LAST JEDI yesterday, and noticed a brief cameo of Williams’ THE LONG GOODBYE theme during the Canto Bight sequence. Wow, cute. This is probably common knowledge to everyone, but wasn’t to me. Only took me close to a decade and some 3-4 rewatches.

                  I didn’t know that and don’t even remember the scene. Is that on the album? I think I only knew the more or less hidden Emperor theme at the end of EP1.

                  But I remember a slight citation of the Imperial March – might be unintended coincidence due to similar harmonics – in WAR OF THE WORLDS. Anyone caught that before?

                  #9327

                  I didn’t notice any WOTW, I’m afraid. The LONG GOODBYE theme is heard briefly as source music in the casino, for a few seconds before they break through the windows with those horsie things (Fathiers?). It’s not on the album.

                  #9330
                  Malte Müller
                  Keymaster

                    Thanks, will try to remember and pay atention when I see that again.

                    I didn’t notice any WOTW, I’m afraid.

                    Will take a alook if I can find it again. It’s more a brief motiv/harmonic similarity that got me like “I know from somewhere else” when I first heard it.

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