Malte Müller
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1. I just did not yet get around to it.
2. I like the idea that there is still an “undiscovered” gem in my Williams collection. I expect this score to be really good. And of course I will listen to it one day. (There are sometimes — not generally, not always, but sometimes — years between when I buy CD and when I finally listen to it.)I can absolutely relate to that! Years ago I almost instantly had to listen to every CD or download I bought. Nowadays they also often lay around for some time although not necessarily years.
Yes, it’s like a “themes and variations” score, which I don’t think is a bad thing at all. For me definitely one of the best scores Williams did in the 1990s.
Just to not be misunderstood this was not really a “quality” statement. Especially since many Goldsmith scores also are that. And of course Williams’ own THE LONG GOODBYE is even more so (and I like it as a very
BLACK SUNDAY is interesting… I have the score in my collection since 2010, but have not yet listened to it. It’s still a Williams score I’m looking forward to discover one day.
You should really do finally! It is the kind of thriller score which Williams rarely did.
Just listening to Arthur B. Rubinsteins WARGAMES (the Quartet). A great unique score with its mixture of orchestra and synth. Also recently re-watched the movie (officially free on/by Youtube in German at least). Besides the technics naturally looking a bit dated – and some synth tracks as well if you will – now it overall still works great with all the AI slop and world situations.
Seems ou have your partner in crime already for the first experiment. The outcome will be interesting! 😉
Yes, nice one.
Just the other day, you brought up PATRIOT GAMES, and I was singing the virtues of “Harry’s Game”.
Interesting to learn that the song actually belongs to a same named TV series from 1981. The song from LAST OF THE MOHICANS seems to have been a original one though.
Oh, the voice of CLANNAD… LEGEND is of course a classic from childhood, too (Wasn’t there a re-release recently ofthe score, too?), Never really explored their work but also had the “folksy” impression despite synth usages. Don’t mind celtic folk styling though at all. Good time to start with the LORE recommendation probably!
As I said, it was done at a time when there really weren’t any sci-fi shows, and hardly any sci-fi movies.
Exactly it pre-dates Star Trek and I think the black & white look adds to much of the charme and it may look far more dated if in 60s colors 😉
Seems here is a medium quality version with actual English subtitles:
On PRESUMED INNOCENT there are about three great tracks that more or less sum up the whole score quite well.
It’s a rather “mono” thematic score so all centers on the main theme to me anyway.
Yesterday watched Zemecki’s ALLIED the first time. Thought I saw it already but apparently didn’t. “Liked” that there was no happy end, although I found that epilogue unnecessary and had the end credits start right after the finale. Fitting Silvestri score although nothing spectacular.
Hamburg is a kind of center of Horse racing actually:
https://www.galopp-hamburg.de/pferderennen/derby-meeting-2026
As a child I even watched that with my parents. Mostly with chariots (are they called that?)
But it’s not really my thing 😉Probably means nothing to anyone but Norwegians here.
Indeed, never heard of that. Or it has a totally different name here. What is that?
There is a soundtrack edition. I bet it consists primarily film songs and some well known themes. GerateWohl will surely report 😉
I indeed played it last year the first time. The standard edition but not the soundtrack one. To my own surprise I did rather well…
I must have missed this thread earlier, because I would surely have remembered those clips from RAUMPATROUILLE. That dancing scene is hilarious! I don’t think I’ve heard about RAUMPATROUILLE before, but I’m a fan of vintage sci-fi shows, so I’ll have to check this out on YouTube.
It’s still fun especially with the limited budget they had (it even predates Star Trek!). Pay atention to the console using clothe hangers and irons 😉 Not sure if there is any dubbed version. But look for the seven individual episodse as there is a shorter movie version, too.
There is even an updated soundtrack release coming out end of May:
Peter Thomas Sound Orchester – Raumpatrouille Orion (schwarze LP/CD-Bundle)
Seems some tracks are different to the version I have for years. No idea, I think some were rather unreleaed bonus tracks.Damn, if he didn’t write an original score for OCTOBER, that means I must re-evaluate 1928 now.I’ve never heard the original Meisel.
I have a condensed version – it is a bit repetitive – of it ripped from a VHS years ago I think. My library has a DVD with it and Potemkin with the scores I am going to lend sometime I get the chance. The music it generally a bit like his Potemkin.
I should re-familiarize myself with THE PASSION OF JOAN OF ARC again, as I haven’t seen the film since I was a student.
I have seen that with different music – even live in a church with organ and some solist I think years ago – but never any original.
For 1913 I could suggest RICHARD WAGNER which has a original score by Giuseppe Becce working around Wagner itself since thte music was stil copyrighted back then (and he played the title role himself):
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0003330/
I have never heard it completely for unknown reasons. There was even a CD release of it I don’t have. But this would be more “historical importance” so far and not personal favorite…As we all know Wikipedia is not always a reliable source. Wikipedia also has a lengthly entry about that tone poem and it does not mention the movie:
October, Op. 131, is a symphonic poem composed by Dmitri Shostakovich to commemorate the fiftieth anniversary of the October Revolution in 1967. He was spurred to compose the work after reencountering his score for the Vasilyev brothers’ 1937 film Volochayev Days [ru], reusing its “Partisan Song” in October. Although Shostakovich completed the work quickly, the process of writing it fatigued him physically because of his deteriorating motor functions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_(Shostakovich)
Same text here https://www.boosey.com/cr/music/Dmitri-Shostakovich-October/3162?langid=1&sl-id=2
I think we have a confusion with the movie due to the same name generally. Fact is for sure though that Schostakovic music was tracked to the movie.
As it turns out, it WAS a new original score (and not like the BATTLESHIP situation), but written many years later, in 1966. And later turned into a tone poem, which is where I first heard it – I think on one of my dad’s classical records.
I did find that tone poem as well but there is no mention it was a film score originally. Infos I found say “composed in 1967 for the 50th anniversary of the October Revolution” only. For example here: https://schostakowitsch.de/Schostakowitsch/Sein-Werk/
Hmmm. So it’s a bit like BATTLESHIP POTEMKIN, perhaps, where a later version used existing Shostakovich music instead of the original Meisel?
Often those original silent film score often were rather local and Meisel’s was primarily for the German premiere. I doubt it was regulary peformed or even outside Germany.
This was my list from that FSM tbread:
No synths, no Jon 😉
Even Dieter Bohlen of Modern Talking fame scored an episode of Derrick, in 1989. 😅
Yes, he also did some episodes of DER ALTE, TATORT and even was lead composer of at least one series. But hardly anything realy great 😉
Yeah, saw that as well this afternoon. I listened to the sample but sadly they didn’t grab. Some of the other scores release are more to my liking (I have the one with KILLER BEES actually so far). But I applaud getting such unreleased score out!
I’ve always assumed he did. Tall Guy is the person to ask, if he still pops by here.
I just searched a bit since it interested me. It seems he hasn’t, it is not named on any entry about him when film scores are listed. Seems they just used his music later on. This article refers to the conductor Frank Strobel also did compile his music for the movie:
https://www.schostakowitsch.de/Berichte/Panzerkreuzer-Potemkin/And hier in English about that on his own site:
https://www.frankstrobel.de/en/projects/battleship-potempkinBut maybe Tall Guy knows more.
