Malte Müller
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As far as I know there are two different tours “Hans Zimmer Live” with him and “The World Of Hans Zimmer” withut him but with some of his solists. Here is a vide that someone seems to have edited: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu844oj0fTQ
I saw Zimmer in Hamburg Germany in 2016.
Cool, you been around the corner 😉
Ron Goodwin, to my uncertain knowledge, never scored a western.
There is actually the western drama THE TRAP:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061115/?ref_=nm_flmg_job_1_accord_1_cdt_t_36I think many of his war movie themes also could have worked in westerns.
At least the trip had a key moment already. Sorry, couldn’t resit. Hope it all solves. One of my nightmares to lock me out and gladly never happened so far (knock on wood)
But the whole thing was completely ruined by the absolute worst case of horrible needle-drops that I have ever endured.
The songs were atrocious…an assault on your ears!!I dare to say it might be also a generational thing. I try to to be open minded but find myself often wondering about some current successful music 😉 But that said I find many series to have too much music anyway.(Disclaimer: Don’t have Prime so I didn’t see this series and will probably not for quite some time…)
I am not an expert or fan of his scores. I have a handful only that – as usual – haven’t listen to a while but generally liked: The above, JANE EYRE, ATONEMENT, I CAPTURE THE CASTLE. Or the ore action scores like BROTHERS GRIMM , V FOR VENDETTA and I found GHOSTBUSTERS FROZEN EMPIRE fun as well. Maybe because of all the Bernstein cameos.
I saw it at a secondhand shop and assumed I already had it, so I passed it by.
Nearly another topic: Not buying because you thought you already had it or other way round buying because you thought you didn’t 😉
It’s a nice best of which somehow suite Desplat quite well. I don’t know if it is geoblocked but our French-German broadcaster has the concert video of it (minus some tracks) online o their site
https://www.arte.tv/de/videos/128915-000-A/alexandre-desplat-harry-potter-the-grand-budapest-hotel/
and also on one of their Youtube channels:
Just to mention the Oktoberfest is speficially Bavarian/South German, in Munich specifially as Thor mentions. We do know it up here in North but we don’t really celebrate it. I saw several Youtube clips and as far as I saw most food is quite “Americanized” compared to the originals 😉
Fully agree… it’s got all the electronics to Anker the film as (then) contemporary, but the construction is pure Western music. It’s also my favorite Goldsmith recording from his brief Hungarian period.
I only have the old Intrda release and never had an issue with the sound so didn’t upgrade like with all the Rambos. Is the expanded version one of those Goldsmiths that benefit from that?
James Horner’s most overt American Western score, An American Tail 2 Fievel Goes West is getting the deluxe 2CD treatment it deserves from Intrada.
I watched the movies back then and surely listened to the music. But in fact I don’t have any of these two scores…
I have not seen the show but a concert video of one on one of our broadcasters (I am sure there are bits on Youtube). It’s basically a rock symphony concert with lots of soloists and, well, it’s probably quite loud 😉
Yeah, it’s a wide field of course. I’d include EXTREME PREJUDICE, it’s a neo-Western with a terrific score.
Absolutely and one of the good synth usages by him! Especially the track “The Deal” (I think) is basically a Goldsmith’s western theme just with more electronics.
I do understand that. It’s more a history-adventure. But while it has no gunslingers it shares trappers, natives and soldiers and takes place in North America. Also the East is also the West depending on the view point 😉
Yes, it was a very wide measure. I always thought that the early Colonial conflicts inbetween the colonist and with the Natives are to rare a topic.
LAST OF THE MOHICANS I would call already western although it is also actually a Colonial drama. But as you say there are mixtures.
The really classic “Western time” or “Frontier” time would be set from 1865 to 1890s only.Alex North used “Goodbye, Old Paint” in Bite the Bullet as well.
I really need to relisten to it as I don’t remember it there!
Yes. Didn’t Goldsmith copy/quote that for WILD ROVERS?
He used the same song originally titled “Goodbye, Old Paint” that Copland also used among some others I think.
Funny actually that Copland although never scored an actual western but THE RED PONY may qualify 😉
9 times out of 10, I would find that if it was a western score (especially written in the Copland/old tradition style) I was gonna love it.
Yeah, the quintessential Western music style. We probably could include Coplands ballets like BILLY THE KID here, too 😉
JEREMIAH JOHNSON (Rubinstein/McIntire), COMES A HORSEMAN (Michael Small), BACK TO THE FUTURE III (Alan Silvestri)
Good ones, too!
THE RARE BREED, THE PLAINSMAN,
We need those two Williams release, although we got re-recorded suites.
Eastern German western scores.
Where’s the dizzy smiley when you need it? 😉
He probably meant Eastern German western northern southern scores.
Hehehe, the pun was intended 😉 since the Karl May westerns were West German the GDR aka East Germany did shoot their own westerns:
https://www.discogs.com/de/release/14971664-Karl-Ernst-Sasse-Blutsbr%C3%BCder-Spur-des-Falken-Die-Originalmusik-der-DEFA-Indianerfilme-1
https://www.discogs.com/de/release/14900030-Karl-Ernst-Sasse-Wei%C3%9Fe-W%C3%B6lfe-Ulzana-Die-Originalmusik-der-DEFA-Indianerfilme-2A big part of my childhood was the series WESTERN VON GESTERN (a word play you can’t as it means WESTERN OF YESTERDAY). Probably the Germans here remember that, too. It was a pre-evening series and conisted of old B-western like Fuzzy St. John or John Wayne that were re-cut and often split in cliffhanger multiparts (the did similar with LAUREL & HARDY and CHAPLIN). And it was re-scored. I loved the title music although a bit cliche heavy (always loved how the editing makes it look as if the slingshot makes the mountain explode):
That gladly is also available clean and in stereo. There is actually even an libray album of the whole score (though missing especially one key action tracks sadly) though sadly not officially available.
but I also love, absolutely love the 1957 score 3:10 To Yuma by George Duning.
Yes, one of the many great I didn’t list!
A few other great ones in no particlular order:
– BRAVADOS (Newmand & Friedhofer – Love especially the main theme which has a great Gerhardt re-recording)
– ONE-EYED JACKS (Friedhofer)
– MYSTIC WARRIOR (Gerald Fried)
– SUNSET (Mancini – not really a western or western score but the great main theme is)
– THE MISSING (Horner)
– COLD MOUNTAIN (Yared)
– TRUE GRIT (the remake with score by Carter Burwell)
– THE ALAMO (Carter Burwell)
– ROOSTER COGBURN (Rosenthal)
– RIDE WITH THE DEVIL (Mychael Danna)
– MAVERICK (Randy Newman)
– BUTCH CASSIDY & SUNDANCE KID (Burt Bacharach – although not really a western score)
– APPALOOSA (Jeff Beal – not totally great but a nice fitting theme)
– OUTLAWS (Clint Bajakian – a italo western style LucasArts video game score- A bit snythy due to its age but some real instruments in there)
– THE STALKING MOON (Karlin)
– WILLIE BOY IS HERE (Grusin – unusual score, sadly totally unreleased)
– THE LONG RIDERS (Cooder)
– GERONIMO (Cooder – a rather unusual western score)
– WILL PENNY (Raksin)
– INDIAN FIGHTER (Waxman)
– CIMARRON (Waxman)
– CENTENNIAL (John Addinson – great TV score sadly unreleased)
– THE ASSASSINATION OF JESSE JAMES BY THE COWARD ROBERT FORD (Cave & Ellis – not a big fan of them but I found that one fitting)
– BEHOLD A PALE HORSE (Jarre)
– RED SUN (Jarre – that’s an Eastern western ;-))
– THE PROFESSIONALS (Jarre)
– THE WAY WEST (Kaper – sadly the album is a re-arranged re-recording)I’ll stop for now forgetting loads of them 😉
And in that context I am wondering, is Ron Howard’s FAR AND AWAY a Western, too?
I would say partly as the certainly is in the 2nd half. To link to THor’s statement, I do conisder everything taking place from the early Colonial times to the actual “Western time” in the 19th century to be “westerns” even if they take place in the East part of the now US.
GANGS OF NEW YORK although is more a gangster movie but Corilgiano’s REVOLUTION could be included or Horner’s NEW WORLD.
Even civil war drams like NORTH & SOUTH are basically also a kind of western for me. LEGENDS OF THE FALL also has a lot western elements although it is not directly one.
I also consider ZORRO generally to be a western so Horner’s scores should be included here, too.
And of course Neo westerns do belong here as well. For example LAST MAN STANDING is certainly a western, too. FIREFLY is kind of a western and the score play with that. Or Karlin’s WESTER WORLD.
YELLOWSTONE has a nice theme as do its prequel series.
I am a big fan of snow westerns. Luckily, or unluckily, there is a very finite number of them.
SERAPHIM FALLS with Pierce Brosnan also has some snow scenes although not exclusively if I recall right.
SInce they are a huge part of my childhood as well the German Karl May western scores by Martin Böttcher (and one each by Ortolani and Peter Thomas). There are also some quite good Eastern German western scores.
THE TREASURE OF THE SIERRA MADRE (Steiner)
Somehow I never considered this to be a western but a “golddigger drama” although I realize it is often considered as one 😉
Some more:
– DEATH OF A GUNFIGHTER (Oliver Nelson)
– HANNIE CAULDER (Ken Thorne)
– BITE THE BULLET (North)
– BLACK ROBE (Delerue – although it not in the “west” ;-))
– LAST OF THE MOHICANS (Jones/Edelman)
– MACKENNA’S GOLD (Quincy Jones)
– CATLOW (Roy Budd)
– SOLDIER BLUE (BUdd)
– THE KENTUCKIAN (Herrmann)
– GARDEN OF EVIL (Herrmann)
– BEND OF THE RIVER (Salter – unreleased sadly)
– TRIBUTE TO A BAD MAN (Rozsa)
– NEVADA SMITH (Newman)
– VILLA RIDE (Jarre)
– LAWMAN (Fielding)
– WILD BUNCH (Fielding)
– OUTLAW JOSEY WALES (Fielding)
– WYATT EARP (James Newton Howard)
– OPEN RANGE (Kamen)
– HANG’EM HIGH (Frontiere)
– EL DORADO (Nelson Riddle)Great fan of Westerns and their music since childhood. I like all that you named, Gerate. Generally I like them from all areas but probably 50s-70s best. Bernsteins are all great (maybe becuase they are a bit similar, true ;-)). WILD WILD WEST is entertaining but pales in front of his classics.
Some that come to mind right now (there are so many):
– Lots of Tiomkins
– Schifrin JOE KIDD
– DeVoL ULZANA’S RAID
– North’s CHEYENNE AUTUMN
– Broughton’s SILVERADO and TOMBSTONE
– Poledouris’ QUIGLY DOWN UNDER (yes technically no western ;-)) and LONESOME DOVE.
– Barry’s last peak DANCES OF WOLVESI like the era of 1988, with THE TRACKER by Sylvester Levay and YOUNG GUNS by Anthony Marinelli/Brian Banks 😅
Of course 😉 I don’t think I know THE TRACKER but YOUNG GUNS is okay 😉
Trevor Rabin did a couple, Jon. AMERICAN OUTLAWS and TEXAS RANGERS. Not a fan of those?
I have a boot of TEXAS RANGERS and it is labeled as just “okay”. No memory of it though…
Yes, I noticed that release. I’m lukewarm on Glass and hardcore minimalism, but a compilation like that may be just perfect for me. And on 2 CDs, even.
Exactly my thought as well.
I love Koyannisquatsi but I also really can’t listen to many Glass in the row.
So maybe this was the right score for Goldsmith to sign off after all… with Joe Dante, Bugs Bunny & Daffy Duck.
Yeah, maybe and he is as immortal as these cartoon characters are for us. Thanks for the review. Makes me want to get it in the near future.
John Williams, The Cure, Pearl Jam and Joe Jackson
Interesting mixture for sure 😉 But there is so much music out there it would be bad to exclude anything in general!
