Malte Müller
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(PS: yeah, separated paragraphs would make for better legibility. But I read it all anyway. 🙂 )
Me too, but easier is always better 😉
Yeah, seems a lot do that for summaries… At least it is frequently advertised by online marketing channels…
Could you please use proper paragraphs (with empty lines). Long texts like these are really a bit hard to read this way 😉
I have the old version on my libary service and only sampled it. Since Rozsas are never really bad it seemed like a routine score though. The BACKGROUND TO SILENCE suite is great though. I have it on thte on Varese with the LUST FOR LIFE suite.
BSX is at it with the AI shit again….”Rósza”, “Eedebal Bureau of Investigation”. It seems to have been corrected now, but it’s probably still on the CDs. Absolutely bonkers stuff, I’ll rather take Banning’s mediocre art.
Indeed, I prefer even their usual odd typographic choices… (and look at the website which still looks like early internet days…)You really don’t need much to get a more or less proper layout if you don’t have the actual film artwork at hand…. A lots of classical labels show this frequently (some better than others). Even Musicbox does this on their composer compilations if you create a series base layout you just vary…
What’s next? Will they use AI to write lines notes cobbled together from wikipedia? Will they generate their cover versions via AI as well?
But maybe they should use AI for their customer relations as there seem to be frequent complains 😉And Ohno was even born in 1941, so he would have qualified for the “Composers at 85+” thread. But I wasn’t aware of him, and now it’s too late.
Yes, I thought as well that we totally missed him sadly.
Just read on FSM that Japanese composer Yuji Ohno passed away. Not terribly familar with him but he of course was the original composer of CAPTAIN FUTURE.
Mark Smythe, apparently a composer originally from New Zealand, has unexpectedly died as well. I have never heard of him before but seems he was quite known as composers like McCreary, Wintory etc posted about it on social media.
Technically they could have just included new versions with new improvisations as well which is what jazz is about. But probably then some would have complained that they are not exactly the same/as good as the “original”. But since the jazz versions where specific album tracks if I read correctly it makes total sense to me to leave them off.
I could mention quite a few such examples. Of course, I also find some CDs that cost more or less the same, and you can still find good deals, but chances are, in a few years those good deals will cost a lot more or will be hard to find as well.
Wow, that example got really expensive!!
So there is no misunderstanding: the numbers Malte quoted are not indicative of any rise in physical media sales, they are still “shrinking”.
Thanks and good summary! I didn’t meant to indicate that physical media was rasing!
All I need to to is scroll through my Amazon list for some of the classical recordings I’ve bought over the years there, and compare the price I paid then to what the same release would cost me now. It’s often tripled or quadrupled in price, sometimes even more. Sometimes, there are offers of used CDs way more expensive than they were when I bought them new.
And of course everything involved from postage to materials got more expensive additionally as well which the nice cannot compensate anymore by numbers. Yeah, the curse of the niche…
I find myself becoming more of a purist as I get older.
Always quite interesting to observe how one changes getting older. And sometimes in ways you never thought in younger years 😉
Sorry for the long comment.
No need to be sorry 😉 Indeed BSX/DD (for me that is all one actually) do relase interesting stuff. They probably can being “under the radar” a bit… And thtey also offer downloads only that have a bit lesser costs.
Lalaland and the others often alsos have the advantage or disadvantage that they have no digital rights. Varese seems to have and has generally the most expensive prices for downloads. Lossless is at CD level mostly. You have to look where you buy downloads (their bandcamp is a bit cheaper btw.)Though digital releases make it possible… you could just buy/download the tracks or parts of a release that you want.
Indeed, although with albums that have more than a few tracks it is often more expensive to buy one or two tracks than just buying the whole album.
desires and preferences are what they are, they are neither “altruistic” nor “anti-altruistic”,
Let’s just call it “Thor’s obsession” and it is outside all adjective categories 😉
This new recording is a bit of a revelation in terms of the music – a lot more than the familiar theme.
Sounds interessting!
Fun detail: I always misread the title as ICEPRESS FILE since forever 😉
Btw, nice and a bit unusal written review of STAR TREK IV. The score gets some hate every now and then is my impression but I always liked it, too. I even can forgive that Rosenman basically re-used his LORD OF THE RINGS march 😉
I did like both Star Wars and Star Trek. I have seen everything of classic to TNG Star Trek (I have virtually not seen an Star Wars series yet ignoring D+). That means indeed all movies and all episodes. The only thing I haven’t seen only a few episodes is the old animation series. Had on my Netflix list too long and now all is gone… I also haven’t seen all of LOWER DECKS which is really fun as I am relying on TV here (I don’t have and want Paramount+) and only the first free epsiode of ACADEMY. TNG is great I watched it after school in TV as it was shown pre-prime-time. I like VOYAGER as well – I even like ENTERPRISE but I really love DS9.
My first encounter was as a child with TOS in TV of course. I didn’t see it completely then because it was not shown completely in TV back then as usual and mixed up in order a bit if I recall right. I rewatched really completely and in English the frst time on Netflix.
The Abrams films I can tolerate as a reboot – you cannot use TOS setting nowadays – although as it was quite fittingly casted although unnecessary.
Same problem I have with DISCOVERY which didn’t fit as a prequel at all and IMHO it got better after the time jump and should always have played in the future right away. STRANGE NEW WORLDS does a much better job modernizing the setting and is my favorite show of the news ones (just recently saw Season 1+2). PICARD was okay as a kind of nostalgia. As mention I like the silly over the top references in LOWER DECKS. PRODIGY was okay once you could get used to the animimaton.
Scorewise I have a lot. The Goldsmiths of course. The first as the expanded 3CD set and the fitht as 2CD Lalaland edition, and WRATH OF KHAN in the FSM edition. All others just in standard versions partly digital only (boots not counted………). I do have these olde TNG and best of editions for the TV stuff and the first DS9 Box from Lalaland. TNG area music of course tends bit to meander around and requires Thor’s whittling 😉
Of the Giacchinos I have the first as CD and I was really disappointed to bored… Once a fan of his game scores and TV scores he started to leave me cold beginning with MI3 specifally. I have the 2nd digitally though but not the third.
The music of the “New Trek” is mostly uninteressting, here seems STRANGE NEW WORLDS the most interesting but I haven’t listened to it outside the episodes. LOWER DECKS has a nice nostalgic traditional Star Trek score though
My first encounter with Star Trek was when it replaced Space:1999 on TV. I loved “Space:1999”. Star Trek then was kind of a letdown.
I had never seen this in childhood expect maybe bits as I knew the theme and the eagles. Just around 10 or so years ago it was shown again and as much as the premise is nonsense I really liked it, too.
Since we just talked about the Quartet Barry on the other side: Seems that the kickstarter has a bit over half already with 9 days to go. As usual it slows down on the last days. Haven’t contributed yet…
I have the old album digitally and it is a bit repetitive beside the great theme. Still haven’t listened to the samples. In any case re-recordings should be supported.
The T+A plays just about anything you throw at is… CDs, WAVs, FLACs, ALACs, AIFFs, MP3, UPnP/DLNA, it’s got Qobuz/Deezer/Tidal/Roon “built in”
Hopefully you get updates many years to come for the services supported… That’s the kind of dependency on these devices that would puzzle me if I had such.
No, no…not replacing. Just adding, like it should always have been. I should never have sold it.
But why when it is in better sound included on the 2nd disc?
I think I’m going to keep it, if only because of the superior sound on the OST, but some day, I’ll reacquire the old Varese, I think.
I do understand that preference but this sound weird to replace the better sounding one with the old single one…
Awesome, that’s really fast! They probably knew you would order it and sent it right away preliminary 😉 I never had this within Germany or even with the Soundtrack Club which was located right next to my city.
If anyone is interested here are some stats and diagrams about the German music market 2025 (I think those are new but not sure if we had them already…):
https://www.musikindustrie.de/wie-musik-zur-karriere-werden-kann/markt-bestseller/musikindustrie-in-zahlen-2025There was also a FB post about spending for music changed within the last ten years:
- Music products in total +64%
- Physical media +49%
- Downloads -32%
- Streaming +73%
I have a subscription to the New York Times, that allows me to share a limited number of articles, so here you go.
Just to note that Lalaland had actually posted the full article for free reading on Facebook (probably NYT would not really be happy about that ;-)).
“Every filmscore deserves to be presented and enjoyed in complete recorded form” and “There is no film music worth listening to on album that wasn’t on the original soundtrack album” makes sense.
Indeed that is too extreme in both ways for me, too. And I also think Thor is (often) right.
Lalaland has a feature on New York Times online. Since it is behind a paywall they just posted it with photos on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/lalalandrecords/posts/pfbid0259Br26wWLo4GkYojjyxYTH4VmPSgHqYRtwDWkr8fWiabym1Xodg6kYESUqGgURklI can also follow on some of these although probably not that harsh with any. I don’t mind “kids movies” 😉 But indeed READY PLAYER ONE was a bit too nervous for me as well… His West Side Story version I haven’t seen.
Humor is a difficult concept.
Indeed. Ask the British. Of course it is often said we Germans generally don’t have any humor at all 😉 I also had no problem with that exaggeration as it is a so overly common phrase… (I don’t like dialogue on score albums, too)
It’s basically something for an off topic itself: But “since the internet” I noticed lots of times that written text so easily leads to misunderstandings in rather unexpected ways… And not even just humor, irony or saracsm…
