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Composers that you disliked, but now like?

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  • #4692
    Thor Joachim Haga
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    Thanks for the specs, Gerate…that’s very much useful. I’ll sit down this weekend and think up some 4-5 recommendations that might suit your preference.

    #4693
    GerateWohl
    Deltaker

    Thank you.
    You make me curious.

    #4694
    Malte Müller
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    I do like Zimmer often but I am not a fan of him like I am of Goldsmith or Williams. He’s good suited for best of playlists. For example I don’t rank GLADIATOR that high althought there are some nice tracks. And I tend to like his earlier stuff more than the newer ones.

    Having said that, he does sometimes surprise me. I might be the only person in the world to say this, but my favourite Zimmer score is the small drama comedy SPANGLISH, which is so beautiful and lyrical. Highly recommended.

    Do you know his Irish-celtic influenced score to EVERLASTING PIECE? I found that surprising as well.

    #4713
    Thor Joachim Haga
    Nøkkelmester

    Alright, first of all it’s important to stress that Zimmer shouldn’t be judged on orchestral chops. That’s not what he’s about (you don’t judge Bob Dylan by how well he writes techno music either). He mostly uses orchestra for colouring. That being said, I would still recommend a largely orchestral score like THE HOUSE OF THE SPIRITS to you. Sumptously romantic and kinda dark. In a similar vein would be INVINCIBLE.

    It’s a shame you don’t go for ethnic colouring, because that is – IMO – where Zimmer is at his very best. BEYOND RANGOON, for example, is one of my top 10 scores of all time.

    There’s a lot of variation, modulation and polyphony in THE THIN RED LINE. It’s more minimalist/suggestive than ethnic, really. It’s usually a score liked by those who generally don’t like Zimmer.

    There are also the light drama scores, which are again quite orchestral. SPANGLISH and EVERLASTING PEACE were mentioned; I’d also mention NINE MONTHS and AS GOOD AS IT GETS in that vein.

    Alright, those are some recommendations. It’s tricky, because your “don’t” list basically included everything that makes Zimmer Zimmer.

    #4715
    GerateWohl
    Deltaker

    Thank you for the easrecommendations.
    As you can see in my top 10 in the other thread I mainly aim for symphonic or melodic film scores.

    Both areas where I would claim, Zimmer is not good at.
    And obviously he doesn’t have to be. People are hiring him for something else.

    And Hans Zimmer usually works in styles which are either completely outside my taste or where I prefer respective excesses from original pop or rock artists. Just like some fans of orchestral music might prefer Stravinsky or Elgar over John Williams.

    Basically it is about the music itself. The fact, that it is used in film is secondary. Still that leads often to weird musical comparrisons between composers like Hans Zimmer and John Williams which make musically as much sense as comparing Metallica to Prokofiev. Of course it is possible to compare both musically.
    But the argumentation why I should like Metallica when I like Prokofiev might be vastly difficult.

    #4716
    Thor Joachim Haga
    Nøkkelmester

    Yes, I think it’s important to evaluate a composer on his or her own terms.

    Once you do that, and if you still don’t like it, it has more to do with the fact that you don’t like those particular modes.

    Fortunately, in the case of Zimmer (and most eclectic film composers), there are many different modes in play. So one might just be lucky and find one that corresponds to your own preferences.

    #4717
    GerateWohl
    Deltaker

    Anyway, I will definitely check out The Thin Red Line. And then we’ll see what comes next.

    #4736
    Thor Joachim Haga
    Nøkkelmester

    No expectations. You like what you like. 🙂

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