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  • #5063
    GerateWohl
    Deltaker

    I must confess, I know about half of nothing about italian film music.
    Of course I know some stuff of Ennio Morricone and Nino Rota. And of course there are the Goblin works for Argento.

    But I always see that great amount of scores from Italian movies from the 70s and 80s in the soundtrack online stores (comedy, horror, sex, thriller), that I think, this seems to be a thing among various soundtrack fans. But I know none of them.

    Anyone here into this?

    #5064
    Malte Müller
    Nøkkelmester

    I also only know bits and pieces here and there. Lots via compilations by various composers of mostly the easy listening groovy ones. I have some compilation Franco Miccalizzi did with his band primarily from the Italian police movies. Great groovy fun. Or bits of various westerns.
    Often lack the connection to the movies itself a bit although I surely saw lots of those adventure ones in my youth.

    #5065
    Thor Joachim Haga
    Nøkkelmester

    I can’t keep up with the deep knowledge of Italo buffs at FSM, for example, but I’ve started to explore some of it in recent years. Piccioni, Ortolani, Cipriani, Trovajoli, de Masi etc. etc. A lot of good stuff, but also a rabbit hole to get lost in once you start. I think I just have to accept that I will never be an expert, and just be content with having skimmed the surface and selected some favourites from these.

    #5066
    GerateWohl
    Deltaker

    Yeah, in a way I find it fascinating that there exists this seemingly popular parallel soundtrack world.
    But my memory of the italian genre movies that I have seen (especially comedy and horror) is, that there is not much in for fans of symphonic movie scores like me. It is more that easy listening genre, like also 80% of Morricone’s scores.

    Interesting enough, that often music of composers who at their time often worked in kind of a pop ensemble format like Ennio Morricone, Nino Rota or also Astor Piazolla (I know, he’s Argentinian) are today a prefered source for orchestral or classical chamber arrangements of their music.

    #5067
    Thor Joachim Haga
    Nøkkelmester

    I wouldn’t say it’s all ‘easy listening’. Some of the most harrowing, dissonant works are in the ‘giallo’ genre, for example. When I picked out my favourites from (some of) these composers it’s true that they were either lyrical/wistful orchestral music, or loungey/funky stuff, because that’s my taste, but along the way I encountered a bunch of different things, from big orchestral affairs (peplum movies!) to dark, dissonant experimentalism.

    I think it’s just the “colourful genre”/niche-within-niche thing that attracts so many fans, with that kind of deep, super-detailed knowledge you see on FSM.

    #5068
    Sigbjørn
    Deltaker

    John Williams’ Monsignor is decent. 😉

    #5069
    Malte Müller
    Nøkkelmester

    There are actually lots of Italian pirate, Roman sword and sandal and other adventure movies at least in the 50s and 60s that have rather traditional symphonic scores. For example these Ursus, Hercules, Samson or Maciste movies. Sadly not familar with these but the Alhambra label release some of these scores by Lavagino I think.

    #5070
    Malte Müller
    Nøkkelmester

    Ah, the sword and sandal ones are also called Peplum films which I forgot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword-and-sandal

    #5071
    Nick Zwar
    Deltaker

    There’s certainly a lot more than easy listening to Morricone’s Italian scores, in fact, I find Morricone wrote some of his most challenging scores for Italian horror/giallo/crime genre. But it’s usually also often not sweeping or symphonic but more experimental, perhaps inspired by his work with the “Gruppo di Improvvisazione Nuova Consonanza”.

    Of course, asides from Morricone, I know other Italian film composers, and have albums by such composers as Pino Donaggio, Nino Rota, Riz Ortolani, Mario Nascimbene, Dario Marianelli, Giorgio Moroder, Guido & Maurizio De Angelis (aka Oliver Onions)… and some more, but I’m sure not an expert.

    #5072
    GerateWohl
    Deltaker

    For me Dario Marianelli does not really count into that group of composers for italian movies. To be honest, I am not aware on any italian movie that he wrote the score for. Did he actually?

    #5073
    Thor Joachim Haga
    Nøkkelmester

    For me Dario Marianelli does not really count into that group of composers for italian movies. To be honest, I am not aware on any italian movie that he wrote the score for. Did he actually?

    Yes, but in later years. I think he moved to London early on, like Zimmer, so he didn’t start out in Italian cinema.

    Let’s share some concrete recommendations.

    Carlo Siliotto:

    TEQUILA
    MIRACLES FROM HEAVEN

    Francesco de Masi:

    ARIZONA COLT
    UNA HISTORIA D’AMORE
    LESBO
    LONE WOLF MCQUADE

    Marco Werba: IL DIARIO DI UN PRETE

    Pericle Odierna:

    IL LEONE DI VETRO
    PICCIRIDA

    Piero Piccioni:

    BORA BORA
    LE MONACHE DI SANT’ARCANGELO
    STORIA DI UNA MONACA DI CLAUSURA

    Pino Donaggio:

    CARRIE
    DRESSED TO KILL
    MORTE IN VATICANO
    DON CAMILLO
    L’ATTENZIONE
    HOTEL COLONIAL
    LA MONACA DI MONZA
    COSI FAN TUTTE
    ANTONIO – GUERRIERO DI DIO
    JOE PETROSINO
    L’UOMO DI CHE CAVALCAVA DEL BUIO

    Riz Ortolani:

    FRATELLO SOLE, SORELLA LUNA
    FANTASMA D’AMORE
    LA RIVINCITA DI NATELE

    Stefano Caprioli:

    LA FRECCIA NERA
    FURORE
    IL SEGRETO DI BORGO LARICI

    Stelvio Cipriani:

    FEMINA RIDENS
    ANONIMO VENEZIANIO
    IL GIARDINO DELL’EDEN
    ORGASMO NERO

    Newer scores:

    Francesco Marchetti: THE GARBAGE MAN
    Francesco Cerati: VILLETA CON OSPITI
    Gabriele Roberti: JULIAN SCHNABEL: A PRIVATE PORTRAIT
    Giulani Taviani & Carmelo Travia: L’UOMO CHE DISEGNÓ DIO
    Marco Pedrazzi: L’ORO DEL RENO

    Giorgio Moroder is a chapter in himself; one of my favourite composers. Same for Morricone. Never been a big fan of Nino Rota, but I like a few of his things. Goblin, I primarily like SUSPIRIA and the odd theme here and there. I have a soft spot for the scores of Italian neo-realism, plus Michelangelo Antonioni, who is one of my favourite directors (Gaslini, Fusco etc.).

    Sorry, that was a longer post than I had anticipated.

    #5074
    Malte Müller
    Nøkkelmester

    A few quick by me that should be generally orchestral:

    Carlo Siliotti THE PUNISHER
    Carlo Siliotti JULIUS CAESAR
    Carlo Siliotti NOMAD THE WARRIOR
    Franco Piersanti IL COMMISSARIO MONTALBANO (ok, actually more chamberlike)
    Francesco de Masi’s THUNDER (have it as LP) / THUNDER 3 (bascially italo western scores so only partly orchestral)
    Piero Piccioni ROMULUS & REMUS
    Nino Rota GATTOPARD
    Marco Frisina Tristano e Isotta
    Marco Frisina Michele Strogoff, il corriere dello Zar

    #5075
    GerateWohl
    Deltaker

    Thank you for the recomendations.
    Something to discover. 🙂

    #5076
    Nick Zwar
    Deltaker

    I admit, when I read “Italian Soundtracks”, I tend to go by composer, but of course Italians have written music for non-Italian movies, and non-Italians have written music for Italian movies. (I usually go by composer, but of course, that’s but one option.)

    #5077
    GerateWohl
    Deltaker

    I admit, when I read “Italian Soundtracks”, I tend to go by composer, but of course Italians have written music for non-Italian movies, and non-Italians have written music for Italian movies. (I usually go by composer, but of course, that’s but one option.)

    I agree, that’s a plausible way to look at it.
    By the way, stylistically I find Marianelli’s most italian score is The Boxtrolls, which is one of my favourites of his.

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