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My current medication doesn’t allow any alcohol. So, I am currently on water, coffee and tea. And it is going to remain that way at least until next year.
Didn’t he have (a little bit like Alan Menken) a reputation of rather being a songwriter than a composer?
I also have that rerecording of The Uninvited. Didn’t do that much for me.
But I am a fan of his Scaramouche suite on that swashbuckling Captain Blood album conducted by Richard Kaufman.
Overall one of my favourite Golden Age albums.I think it’s important to distinguish between texture and timbre. As Copland describes in What to Listen for in Music, texture is more what we would call polyphony, homophony, or monophony, depending. Timbre is the use of instrumental color for effect. His main elements of music are rhythm, harmony, timbre, texture, form, and yes, melody. I feel bad for people who only listen for melodies. Interesting music comes form knowing when and how to use all the elements.
I agree 100%. What annoys me at a lot of modern soundtracks that most younger composers (but also older ones like Hans Zimmer, Chris Young or Alex Desplat, but also Michael Giacchino) are using ostinati like some kind of loop in techno. That often makes their melodies sound very monotone. And ostinato shouldn’t be an end in itself but support or counterpoint the melody. So, as the melody, evolves the counterpoint should, too.
I agree, that sometimes such a monotone ostinato can generate a nice effect. But in the meantime this seems to have become the basic architecture of most orchestral film scores.
For purely textural scores it is something different. I grt that. But if I use melody, I should write an appropriate accompaniment.
Unless I do pop or techno. But then I don’t need an orchestra.
The funny thing is that the terms E- and U-Musik origined in a time when the so called entertainment music was particularly more complex and ambitious than some of the serious music today.
Right. That’s comparable. I remember talking to people about movies who just seemed to evaluate their value just by the gore factor and by how explicit and bloody the violent scenes were.
Preferences and tastes are different.That sounds more like a personal connection you have, Gerate.
Right. That’s more or less exactly what I said. It is related to my taste and personal experience.
Others with different taste might say, if someone in a film music forum calls a soundtrack “a fun score” then they know that they will love it because they simply loves all scores that are called “a fun score” by other soundtrack fans.
But by my experience these scores are usually not my taste.
That’s what I said.For me personally it is less a question of what I consider fun. I don’t use that phrase. It is just an observation of mine that in about 90% of the cases when I read this phrase written by others it is about a score that I consider rather bland, uninteresting and sensationalistic.
In best case, yes, this can be kind of a guilty pleasure.
That does not mean that fun isn’t a feeling that I connect with film scores. But even when I have fun while listening to a particular score, I would never use that phrase “This is a fun score.” because this is usually used to say that people have very low expectations to this music.
Other people might have other experiences. That is why I asked the question.
The example of this Quincy Jones piece and Yup-Nub illustrates the issue with originality quite well. I as a listener probably found Yup-Nub more original before I had heard the Jones piece. So, to a large degree the evaluation of originality is a matter of knowledge on the listener side. And that makes originality a very weak criterion for musical quality.
By the way, I don’t think it’s an issue of plagiarism myself. Just a weird coincidence. But I’m sure it would ignite some discussion.
Friends don’t steal from eachother. They borrow.
And in a way Williams gave it back when he removed Yup-Nup from the Special Edition.I gained a lot of space by buying these DVD sleves for libraries. These original DVD boxes are ridiculously oversized.
But there is one label, was it Intrada?, that publishes hints to the new scores by a riddle based on emoticons at facebook. That is a funny guessing game.